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An Open Letter to President Obama

Mon Aug 8, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
politics, obama, debt, speech, downgrade, s-p
By bilweeler

President Obama in the Oval Office

"Markets will always rise and fall," Obama told the nation. "No matter what some agency may say, we've always been and always will be a AAA country."

Dear Mr. President:

I had a chance to view your speech live today.  Not the "edited for news" version.  The full, real time, complete version.  Given that your speeches are usually game changing events, I was totally disappointed by your lame performance today.

We will "always be a AAA country?"  Really?  Have you read the news, Mr. President?  Do you realize that your political enemies want to crash the country and blame it on you?  And they have pretty nearly succeeded.  

Don't tell me we will always be a "AAA country."  We will only be AAA if we get the leadership we need from all the political players in DC.  The chances of that happening, though, are rapidly approaching zero.  You have taught your opposition that they can have whatever they want if they push you up against the wall.  How exactly do you think you're going to get their cooperation now?

And call me annoyed by tacking on, as if an afterthought, that we lost 30 brave men and women in Afghanistan last week.  They deserve better.  They should not be lumped in with your own crisis.  They gave their lives for all of us.  We gave up 600 points on the Dow today.  Whose sacrifice was greater?

Which brings me to what this speech didn't say to me.  It didn't tell me what your plan is to deal with the spending, the debt, and the double dip recession that may well turn into a Second Great Depression.  And your speech didn't tell me why 30 Americans are in harms way in an 11 year war that was finished about 90 days in.  We have accomplished the mission; you took care of Bin Laden.  It's over.

I have only two requests after hearing you today:

1.  Tell us how we're going get through this financial quagmire by November, 2012.  You may not have a chance to fix it after that date.

2.  Bring the troops home from Afghanistan.  They have done their job.  Admirably.  And they need to come home. 

I know these problems are complex.  But we need solutions.  You volunteered for the job, and you promised us you would be the leader we need.  Not the leader of the Blue States or the Red States, but the United States.  It's time to step up and keep your promise.

Respectfully, 

Bill

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teresa-498430

We are even; you were disappointed by President Obama's speech and I am disappointed by your letter. I have never stopped being amazed by the number of people who are oblivious to the 3 branches of government and their respective duties.

  • 7 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 10:00 PM EDT
bilweeler

Teresa:

I'm well aware of the 3 branches of government.

When the Executive Branch concedes to the Legislative Branch at every opportunity, all three branches are diminished in the process.

Sorry to disappoint you, but when I give my vote to a candidate it's because I believe he or she can make a difference. And I don't hesitate to criticize those I vote for as well as those I didn't when they fail to perform their duties.

I don't expect miracles. But I don't want spin either.

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 10:17 PM EDT
Anna-90776

My sentiments exactly Bill. I saw the families interviewed on the Today show of a few of the lost Soldiers. just kept asking myself, "Why are we allowing these beautiful young men to die over these mad men?" Just bring them home! Many and soon! There should have been a seperate statement in Public for Them! All those young families; it's like allowing 9/11 to just keep killing Americans! Sorry didn't mean to rant.

Obama was magic when we elected him. My jaw dropped that this Country would do it and I was so proud that we had. I was so proud that Brains were going to replace Lame in the White House. But perhaps it is his youth or his lack of T E A M that they fold on all the issues; that they can't lead the sickos out of the mire to lead the country. He sure campaigned like he had it in him to challenge them, but every time he goes their way he gives them more courage for the next time. They all just want re elected; it's like the future of the Country is meaningless to them. So very, very frustrating!!

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 10:32 PM EDT
mstanley2265

He wasn't giving spin, as such, what happened was a bunch of neophyte economists got elected in the House of Representatives and didn't pay attention to the warnings that were rumbling through Wall Street 6 weeks before the Budget finally got pasted and 10 hours before Default.

The President and his Administration made it Crystal Clear in March with the Presidential Proposed Budget. And Warned Congress Again in June that they had to get it done by July 22nd, Though they didn't pay attention to either warning. Oh well, IMO that when the CEO's finally wrote their letter to the President and he faced them with it then they got down to business. Lots of behind the scenes activity.

But this one goes Right Smack Dab in the Lap of the 112th Congress.

  • 5 votes
#1.3 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 10:38 PM EDT
Village Idiot-2299796

Well, Teresa, President Obama Did Cave ...

I's aware that I'm well to the left of most Viners. I also know that as the resident, dues-paying democratic socialist, many will disagree with the good-cop, bad-cop analogy of the Democratic and Republican Parties. But it does remain that President Obama caved. He is the Great Capitulator.

It may disturb us to consider that an unstated, gentleman's agreement lay behind President Obama endorsement of the deal; but such arrangements are ignored to our peril. President Obama had options. He could have used the 14th. If that were challenged, it would take forever for this to work through the courts. And the T-Potty would be steamed in the process.

I think that we have to consider that the T-Potty, Republicans and Democrats play a good game. The theater is essential. We have to believe that the debate is real, as is the potential for differing outcomes. Otherwise, people might rise up and demand the Second, United States Republic. You have to play the game. And President Obama is the best player around.

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:21 AM EDT
Coral Atlas

bilwheeler ... I'll respond to your letter on behalf of the President ......

Now is not the time for partison bickering and finger pointing ..... but compromise and balance.

I have been front and center on this issue from day one .... and while I did not foresee many events that have slowed down the economic recovery I am confident we have the capability to see this through.

While we cannot control earthquakes and spikes in oil prices and the need to act on behalf of fellow human beings on this planet .... we can act to achieve a balanced approach to balancing our books and creating jobs and winning the future. That is not accomplished by creating crisis where none should exist as in the case of raising the debt ceiling.

I don't know what your political affiliation is .... but it doesn't matter ...... accusing the President of being wrong for not further dividing our nation is somewhat disingenuous and very misleading to say the least.

If the GOP is to be believed then this is what voters wanted in November 2010 .... dysfunction.

And job killing spending cuts, abortion laws, union busting, killing health care and destroying the Presidents chances for re-election at any cost.

I happen to think voters wanted results and compromise and balance. This President is on track to acheive that with the help of all americans who stand behind him ..... not by poking a knife in his back as you have ... but by supporting his intelligent, calm and determined approach.

Apparently you voted for political gamesmanship ... and are disappointed OUR President isn't playing that game with republicans.

Is the lack of tit for tat by our President boring you? Perhaps instead you should be watching dancing with stars like many of your fellow americans. You get to vote there as well.

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 7:49 AM EDT
Robert in Ohio

Coral

You forgot to add that when McConnell told the president that they would push the debt ceiling raise past the 2012 elections the president responded giddily.

"Thanks Mitch, go ahead and go whatever else you want, I'll sign it"

Did you find it curious that it took him almost three days to put together a very weak speech that did nothing to calm the world markets?

I do not enjoy "Dancing with the Stars", and the revived game hosted by the president "Let's Make a Deal" seems to be in reruns as the same deals are made over and over.

biwheeler

I hope you get an answer to your letter from the White House and share it with us.

You make some points that need to be addressed

Voted up

  • 3 votes
#1.6 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:06 AM EDT
Felicitie

To hell with President Obama's re-election chances. To hell with President Obama's left-wing ideiology. To hell with President Obama's 'standing in the world.' To hell with his eloquent speeches and his straight creases. This country needs a leader. It doesn't have one. If the man can't do the job (and he can't) step aside and let someone else do it who can. If anyone out there doesn't understand that the business of America is business by now (and not the equalization of misery) then they need to vacate the country and get out of the way of people who KNOW how to run a country.

Thank you.

    #1.7 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:26 AM EDT
    bilweeler

    Robert:

    Thanks for the kind words.

    As has been pointed out here, there is plenty of blame for Congress, the TParty, the GOP/TParty, and the Dems in general. There really isn't any debate about that. But the President shares responsibility for the solutions, even if he didn't create the problems.

    My frustration, and it goes back to the health care debate, is that Obama has not, and perhaps cannot, stand up to his opponents. He's a negotiator, a mediator, a compromiser. Sometimes you need a negotiator or a mediator. And sometimes you need someone with the strength to confront problems and stand up to the challenge. Obama has not shown he can fill that role. And his opponents have taken full advantage of that flaw.

    I'm an independent; not affiliated with any party. I voted for Obama in 2008 because he was by far the better choice. Given the situation in 2008, my preferred Dem candidate would have been the meanest, nastiest, angriest guy that could be put in the room with the GOP. Kind of like the lawyer you'd want in a divorce. In a divorce, you don't need a mediator; the relationship is broken and you're just dividing up the debris. You need someone who will zealously represent your interests and fight for what you deserve. Obama was, and is, clearly not that guy.

    He signaled this "flaw" in the 2008 campaign and in his books. To the extent he has performed as he campaigned, well, we should have seen it coming.

    In the end, though, he promised to "Change" the way Washington works. Well, Washington hasn't changed, and it's not going to. He promised to be the President of all Americans, not Red States or Blue States. Instead, the country is more divided than it has been since the Viet Nam war.

    As I said, there's plenty of blame for all in DC. But this is a crisis (albeit a manufactured one); it's Hillary's "3:00 AM phone call." This is a moment that defines a President. And yesterday's speech to America defined him, but not in a way that will distinguish his presidency.

    Off the soapbox now. I still have hope...but it's dwindling.

    • 2 votes
    #1.8 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 9:40 AM EDT
    devie

    I don't expect miracles. But I don't want spin either.

    Well said. I fully expect the President to do his job to the best of his abilities. With saying that I fully expect the current administration to sharpen their collective pencils and put the boot to the Tea Bags at the same time.

    Enough is enough Mr. President. The time has come to take the TEA Party to the woodshed. Not the other way around.

    • 2 votes
    #1.9 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 11:05 AM EDT
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    Crusher.

    I'll agree with the general premise of the article, Obama needs to lead more by drawing up plans of his own and then do better job of selling them to the public.

    • 2 votes
    Reply#2 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 10:30 PM EDT
    mstanley2265

    He's dealing with Full Grown Adults in the House and Senate, all of whom have their own ideas and ideology instead of their Oath of Office.

    • 6 votes
    #2.1 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 10:39 PM EDT
    Anna-90776

    mstanley, remember how THEY wanted to impeach Clinton? That over the top witch hunt was to force his resignation. But he and his TEAM (with a sensational wife I might add) warded it off. They knew the law; they marched in with dragons on their backs (literally) and kept the Presidency. They had the guts to play and STAY. They knew they were right and fought for it. Wouldn't you just love to see Obama fight all the way for a change?

    • 6 votes
    #2.2 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 10:44 PM EDT
    mstanley2265

    This isn't impeachment, though the loony aspect can be said to be valid. A President of the United States of America in times of crisis Has to walk the Middle Path. The appearance is for the World, not just here in America for public consumption.

    All the global markets have dropped, All of them,he cannot be a part of the divisiveness that is sooo prevalent. The appearance of a calm, capable person in public is pretty much essential right now. Though IMO that in private with some of the characters in this charade are getting an earful either from him or from Wall Street people. LOL and I'd dearly love to be a fly in that room. Maybe we'll find out one day, from his papers and memoirs.

    He went to Harvard Law School, he learned to contain the emotional and deal on the intellectual levels :)

    • 5 votes
    #2.3 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:28 PM EDT
    teresa-498430

    I am a fan of both Clinton's but Bill was impeached in the house. They were not able to ward them off. He was acquitted in the Senate. Obama came into a bigger mess than Bill did and he has much bigger fish to fry, obviously. He cannot write the bills, he does not have any control over what appears on his desk. And he is trying to work with people in Congress whose hate for the President is stronger than their love of country. Their number one priority is to make sure Obama fails, if our country and our people are the casualties, they do not care. Just saying..............

    We are a triple A+ country and that is a fact.

    • 7 votes
    #2.4 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:47 PM EDT
    Walter Prout

    IMHO, All those that sit in Congress and in the Senate are nothing more then a bunch of OLD ROOSTERS IN A HEN HOUSE !


    What's amazing to me is that everyone thinks and believes it's those in office that created this @!$%#storm and yet fail to understand that those in office are the same one's you had ENTRUSTED your lives with !

      #2.5 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 1:04 AM EDT
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      bilweeler

      Anna:

      My thoughts exactly.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#3 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 10:50 PM EDT
      ImRicJamesBit@h

      Nice post!

        Reply#4 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:32 PM EDT
        Dean Moriarty

        You can't pressure the guy into leadership. Either you have it or you don't. The American people need to take responsibility and admit they elected the wrong man.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#5 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:39 PM EDT
        mstanley2265

        more like elected a bunch of neophyte economical 5th graders to the House of Representatives. The Money people know who does the deal and they didn't put in writing the President but they did put in writing Congress...LOL

        • 4 votes
        #5.1 - Mon Aug 8, 2011 11:43 PM EDT
        Village Idiot-2299796

        The Fascistic Right Would Never Allow ...

        the right man (woman?) to be elected. The fascistic right would commit assassinations before that happened.

        • 2 votes
        #5.2 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:22 AM EDT
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        22London

        Obama can't provide a plan because he has no clue....let's face it this guy just likes being President...he doesn't care about anything else. Anybody could do a better job than him. I mean anybody...

        • 1 vote
        Reply#6 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:56 AM EDT
        mstanley2265

        He did provide a plan and one that the Rating agencies would have liked back in March 2011 too bad Congress didn't see fit to accept that budget as a good one.

        • 3 votes
        #6.1 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:58 AM EDT
        Anna-90776

        Oh my, m, I never meant he had to get emotional. The best arguments are high IQ and you see the little emotional rats get all frustrated because they just got knocked down with factual logic. And Obama HAS that and Starts to use it. But he caves so early. I think he could show them to be fools IF he would just keep talking. I do understand it is a world stage and that everyone is affected. The rest of the world wants him to keep talking (fighting) too.

        The pack of dogs saw during w's term how easy is was to get a raw meat fight going and how gullible the citizen sheep followed. We let them go to Iraq for C's sake!! I digress. But a couple of days of ugly slugging back by the President would allow the people a way to express HIS argument. Even if he just kept repeating your above statement; all of America would have started chanting it.

        I guess we're spinning our wheels trying to get him to stand a little longer on any given subject because he too wants re elected "so he can affect more change" according to Michele. So very disappointed he didn't do it in his 1st term. Don't get me started on a health care plan without the public option:)!!

        Someone needs to bring us back from the brink and I agree the stimulus package was not NEEDED because of Obama. I truly do get it! I'm rambling' good place to stop.

          #6.2 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 6:26 AM EDT
          mstanley2265

          IMO that the soothing speech that President Obama made and all the behind the scenes stuff, are soothing the markets this morning.

          • 1 vote
          #6.3 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 8:34 AM EDT
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          mightyj

          Thank you for this letter Bill. Thank you for that most excellent quote too. I borrowed it for my scathing letter to S&P thread. (:

          Ps- I wonder if the troops will have any jobs to come home to.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#7 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 1:58 AM EDT
          DewyOxburgerDeleted
          devie

          Well said Bill. I pray the President will find his cojones. They seem to have gone missing. I would rather he and the Dems went down swing than to continue in the spineless mode they seem to have been perpetuating over the last decade.

          Mr. President please stand up and fight the traitors of the GOTP. We are with you.

          "Fight that fights that need to be fought" not just the ones you can win.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#9 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 10:54 AM EDT
          WILDWONDERFUL

          Obama has two clear objectives one is to be reelected and the next is keep the people divided via the blame game.

            Reply#10 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 11:44 AM EDT
            teresa-498430

            keep the people divided via the blame game

            Everbody knows that is a total fabrication.

            • 3 votes
            #10.1 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:14 PM EDT
            WILDWONDERFUL

            Obama has tried to paint the deficit as jet owners not paying enough in taxes. Tell me what significant cuts he suggested .

              #10.2 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 12:15 PM EDT
              bilweeler

              Wild:

              He offered $4T in cuts, but Boehner/Cantor walked away. Proof here. It even included reductions in entitlement programs. Proof here.

              Now why would they walk away from $4T in cuts?

              Oh yeah. Revenue was included. DEAL BREAKER.

              That's right. They can't take a 4$T deal if a single cent comes from revenue increases.

              And this, apparently, is the GOP brain trust. How sad.

              • 1 vote
              #10.3 - Tue Aug 9, 2011 7:14 PM EDT
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